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Outrage + Optimism

May 20, 2021

This week on the show we discuss the latest IEA Report, “Net Zero by 2050” which charts a path for the energy sector to achieve a 1.5 degree world, and specifically naming the 400 milestones that will get us there. It’s an incredible marker in this decisive decade because the IEA is the gold standard for energy policy around the globe (particularly for Oil and Gas), and in this report they explicitly detail the urgent and irreversible need for a rapid and comprehensive shift away from fossil fuels.

And later on, an O+O first. We get into the connection between national security and climate change with our special guest, Jens Stoltenberg, Secretary General of NATO. With his extensive career history, notably serving twice as Prime Minister of Norway and as UN Special Envoy on Climate Change, he has uniquely straddled both worlds of environmentalism and national security. We unpack how SG Stoltenberg views a military response to the climate crisis as NATO fulfilling it’s duty to secure today and tomorrow for its citizens.

Stick around to the end this week for a catchy tune from Milky Chance. 

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