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Outrage + Optimism

Apr 28, 2022

What on Earth is happening in the US on climate policy?

This week, a look at US federal climate policy ahead of the US midterm elections. We explore the scarily-small-and-measured-in-weeks amount of time we have to pass meaningful climate legislation before the US midterm elections, and where the optimism is in Senate blocked legislation, a so-called ‘Conservative’ leaning Supreme Court, and a Presidential Administration dealing with fossil fuel addiction issues - Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, and high prices at the pump.

So, with the help of the NRDC’s Manish Bapna, we discuss whether it is still possible to squeeze through an acceptable climate package that would put The States back on track to achieve their net-zero goals, AND why his outrage fuels his optimism in the  midst  of seemingly insurmountable challenges.

Plus! Stick around after the interview for the room shaking track ‘My Mama’ by musical guest, Dizraeli.



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Mentioned links from the episode:


NEWS: India’s Heatwave is about to get worse

READ: ‘The Ministry For The Future’ by Kim Stanley Robinson

REST: Resources for Dealing with Climate Anxiety

DAME: Christiana Figueres is Now A Dame



Thanks to our guest this week, Manish Bapna!


Manish Bapna | President & CEO | Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC)

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Thank you to our musical guest this week, Dizraeli!



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TOUR: Dizraeli is coming to a city near you!

WATCH: See for yourself how Dizraeli is touring sustainably



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