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Outrage + Optimism

May 18, 2023

Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue about building a sustainable future.

This week Paul Dickinson introduces the first of his two-part series on Lifelines vs Deadlines: The Need for Science Based Policy by delving into some of the big, underlying and often nefarious causes currently blocking the implementation of meaningful science-based policy which would accelerate our collective transition to a net zero world.

Paul kicks off the episode by outlining the enormity of the net zero target that businesses have set themselves in line with scientific targets and expresses his belief (which is share by many) that these goals are not achievable without meaningful government policy to derisk, regulate, set a level playing field and penalise persistent offenders.

Why then, instead of governments swooping in with these regulatory lifelines, are we seeing at best antipathy or at worst active disinformation campaigns to block regulation that might aid businesses to make the necessary transitions to align with Net Zero strategies and investments? What are the forces at play? Why aren't governments stepping up to the challenge?

These are a few of the questions Paul and Dylan will be exploring over Part One of this mini series with a range of expert guests including:

  • Senator Sheldon Whitehouse

  • Naomi Oreskes

  • Amita Chaudhury

  • Steve Waygood

  • Chris Skidmore MP


Dylan Tanner, InfluenceMap
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Senator Sheldon Whitehouse
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Naomi Oreskes
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Amita Chaudhury
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Steve Waygood
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Chris Skidmore MP


Series Producer: Catherine Harte

Exec Producer: Sarah Thomas

Producer/Sound Design/Editor: Clay Carnill

Production Coordinator: Mandy Clark

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Communications Manager: Zoe Tcholak-Antitch

Operations Manager: Katie Bradford

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