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Outrage + Optimism

Jan 15, 2021

This is our third episode of an Outrage + Optimism investigative series on The Future of Transport.

With 2020 barely in the rearview mirror, the pandemic rages on across the globe, new variants bringing concern and unified collective action to the forefront as a rapidly developed vaccine begins being administered as we speed into 2021.

That same resolve needs to be applied to climate change and the sectors in most urgent need of decarbonisation. And this week, we dive into the future of sustainable shipping.

We rarely ever think about the things we buy as being transported by sea, but shipping has been the backbone of global economies for thousands of years and today accounts for 90% of world trade. It is responsible for 2-3% of global emissions which if it were a country, would put it on a par with Germany - the world’s sixth biggest emitter.

The challenge to decarbonise shipping is huge. With around 60,000 vessels currently in operation emissions are expected to be 50% higher in 2050 than in 2018.

So how to turn this ship around? Our hosts Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac, and Paul Dickinson speak to scientists, CEOs, politicians and pioneers committed to charting a course to a more sustainable shipping future.

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This series is sponsored by NESTE

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Guests this week


Jutta Paulus, MEP, Greens/EFA

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Erik Lewenhaupt, Head of Sustainability, Stena Line

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Jacques Vandermeiren, CEO, Port of Antwerp

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Peter Hinchliffe, Former Secretary General, International Chamber of Shipping



Louis-Noel Vivies, Managing Director, Energy Observer 

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Diane Gilpin, CEO and founder, Smart Green Shipping

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Simon Bullock, Researcher, Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research, University of Manchester 

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James Mason, Researcher, Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research, University of Manchester 

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Nishan Degnarain, Chair, Ocean Finance Initiative, London School of Economics



Søren Skou, CEO of A.P. Møller - Mærsk

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Jules Kortenhorst, CEO of Rocky Mountain Institute 

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